2AR-FE 2.5L Toyota battle of quiet oils

[apollo18]

Hey all, just wanted to provide update

I got a 15 Toyota 2.5L which asks for 0w20

For last 3 oil changes I ran the following

M1 0w30 AFE

PUP 5w30

Castrol Edge 5w30

M1 afe was the loudest out of the bunch, I switched to it directly from a 0w20 and the M1 afe still had the startup vvt rattle and didn’t sound improved over the 0w20

I then ran PUP 5w30 which was soo quiet, rattle dissapeared on startup and I thought I found my new fav oil

I then recently got edge 5w30 put in and it as well is quiet on start up

Purrs like a kitten

Will update again in near future but seems like pup and edge perform similar or the same on a sound test!

 

[OVERKILL]

Hey all, just wanted to provide update

I got a 15 Toyota 2.5L which asks for 0w20

For last 3 oil changes I ran the following

M1 0w30 AFE

PUP 5w30

Castrol Edge 5w30

M1 afe was the loudest out of the bunch, I switched to it directly from a 0w20 and the M1 afe still had the startup vvt rattle and didn’t sound improved over the 0w20

I then ran PUP 5w30 which was soo quiet, rattle dissapeared on startup and I thought I found my new fav oil

I then recently got edge 5w30 put in and it as well is quiet on start up

Purrs like a kitten

Will update again in near future but seems like pup and edge perform similar or the same on a sound test!

Does this have a cartridge or spin-on filter?

 

[apollo18]

Does this have a cartridge or spin-on filter?

Cartridge

Ran same brand same model filter each time

Fram endurance 9972

 

[Kalle.J]

Cartridge

Ran same brand same model filter each time

Fram endurance 9972

The housing has the ADBV, filter should make no difference regarding oiling at startup.
(anti drain back valve*)

 

[Kalle.J]

Out of curiosity when are you pouringing in M1 0W40 FS or ESP

 

[apollo18]

Out of curiosity when are you pouringing in M1 0W40 FS or ESP

Too scared ahahaha. My animal likes w30

 

[facility1]

Typical noise on the Mobil 1, I too used it in one vehicle and it was noticeably a bit clattery then , went to Royal Purple in the same grade (5w-30) noise gone,,,then later used Havoline ,still quiet,next change back ti Mobil 1 5w-30 noise came back,,,hmm this ended my use or even recommending Mobil 1 engine oil.

 

[dippschtick]

Out of curiosity when are you pouringing in M1 0W40 FS or ESP

I have M1 0w40 in my 2013 Camry 2.5 SE at the moment. Will be going back in on the next oil change. Good stuff.
Also use it in my 2018 4Runner.

 

[The Critic]

Maybe you need to replace your failed cam gears. I don’t see how different oil formulations of roughly the same viscosity, will make any meaningful impact.

 

[OVERKILL]

Cartridge

Ran same brand same model filter each time

Fram endurance 9972

Thanks, was trying to determine whether the ADBV may have played a role. I've never had M1 produce any more discernible oil than any other oil I've used, about the only thing I've ever seen an oil change was the smoothness of the MDS transitions on my 6.4L with the HPL 0W-40.

 

[kschachn]

Too scared ahahaha. My animal likes w30

Considering you are the one who asked, it would be better if you made decisions like this based upon technical information rather than scared animals.

 

[MalibuRam65]

Hey all, just wanted to provide update

I got a 15 Toyota 2.5L which asks for 0w20

For last 3 oil changes I ran the following

M1 0w30 AFE

PUP 5w30

Castrol Edge 5w30

M1 afe was the loudest out of the bunch, I switched to it directly from a 0w20 and the M1 afe still had the startup vvt rattle and didn’t sound improved over the 0w20

I then ran PUP 5w30 which was soo quiet, rattle dissapeared on startup and I thought I found my new fav oil

I then recently got edge 5w30 put in and it as well is quiet on start up

Purrs like a kitten

Will update again in near future but seems like pup and edge perform similar or the same on a sound test!

You Might have to Give Valvoline a try especially with the increased Moly

 

[IndyIan]

Maybe you need to replace your failed cam gears. I don’t see how different oil formulations of roughly the same viscosity, will make any meaningful impact.

Its partially viscosity, but also how well or how much of an oil sticks or clings to the inside of the engine, and onto the parts after it sits overnight. That could keep valve train stuff quieter until oil is pumped up there.
I don't know what the term or measurement is for oil clingingness, but I imagine there's some variations with identical viscosity oils.

 

[apollo18]

Its partially viscosity, but also how well or how much of an oil sticks or clings to the inside of the engine, and onto the parts after it sits overnight. That could keep valve train stuff quieter until oil is pumped up there.
I don't know what the term or measurement is for oil clingingness, but I imagine there's some variations with identical viscosity oils.

I think that’s spot on but oil experts seem to not believe in that on this forum.

I think more metal contact equals more chatter

Less contact means less chatter

 

[JavierH19]

2ar-fe specs everything from 0w-20 to 20w-50 in the chart outside of the US. The successor the a25a-fks runs 0w-16 to 15w-40 in the owners manual. So have no fear using something thicker. Don't think 20w-50 is necessary but a euro 30 or 40 grade will work wonderfully. You could try pp euro L 5w-30. Ran super quiet in my daughters cars.

 

[Thebigm]

Hey all, just wanted to provide update

I got a 15 Toyota 2.5L which asks for 0w20

For last 3 oil changes I ran the following

M1 0w30 AFE

PUP 5w30

Castrol Edge 5w30

M1 afe was the loudest out of the bunch, I switched to it directly from a 0w20 and the M1 afe still had the startup vvt rattle and didn’t sound improved over the 0w20

I then ran PUP 5w30 which was soo quiet, rattle dissapeared on startup and I thought I found my new fav oil

I then recently got edge 5w30 put in and it as well is quiet on start up

Purrs like a kitten

Will update again in near future but seems like pup and edge perform similar or the same on a sound test!

I have had the same experience my O2 Camry V6; it hates all mobil oils I have tried over the years

 

[Drewby83]

I'd be interested if QSUP would perform similarly for your noise.

 

[apollo18]

will def run a diff 5w30 thats on sale for next oil change and let u know my findings

 

[ARB1977]

I’m liking M1 EP 0W20 and BG MOA in my 24 Tundra. It runs quiter than Amsoil SS 0W20. Why MOA? I don’t know.

 

[burbguy82]

Hey all, just wanted to provide update

I got a 15 Toyota 2.5L which asks for 0w20

For last 3 oil changes I ran the following

M1 0w30 AFE

PUP 5w30

Castrol Edge 5w30

M1 afe was the loudest out of the bunch, I switched to it directly from a 0w20 and the M1 afe still had the startup vvt rattle and didn’t sound improved over the 0w20

I then ran PUP 5w30 which was soo quiet, rattle dissapeared on startup and I thought I found my new fav oil

I then recently got edge 5w30 put in and it as well is quiet on start up

Purrs like a kitten

Will update again in near future but seems like pup and edge perform similar or the same on a sound test!

you ought to look up the UAE or Asia manual for your model car or engine, and see the oil viscocity they spec....you might be surprised