Originally Posted By: m37charlie
Yes, one can argue about the Fe/Al levels all day, but if you believe detergents are worth anything (why else would they put them in all oils?), isn't a starting TBN of 9.6 better than 6? And a drain TAN/TBN of 3.9/3.7 vs 4.8/1.5? With more miles on the Delvac 1 LE vs the 229.51/LL04 oil?
Is there any definite reason why the ACEA "C" oils are BETTER than an established excellent 229.5 oil like M1 0W40 in an application that doesn't call for them?
Charlie
What we don't know is the replacement additive that's used in Low SAPS. Just saying "less of X means more wear" is silly if X is being supplemented with better and more expensive Y.
This is why it's silly to use UOA's to determined the "strength" of the add pack.
Yes, one can argue about the Fe/Al levels all day, but if you believe detergents are worth anything (why else would they put them in all oils?), isn't a starting TBN of 9.6 better than 6? And a drain TAN/TBN of 3.9/3.7 vs 4.8/1.5? With more miles on the Delvac 1 LE vs the 229.51/LL04 oil?
Is there any definite reason why the ACEA "C" oils are BETTER than an established excellent 229.5 oil like M1 0W40 in an application that doesn't call for them?
Charlie
What we don't know is the replacement additive that's used in Low SAPS. Just saying "less of X means more wear" is silly if X is being supplemented with better and more expensive Y.
This is why it's silly to use UOA's to determined the "strength" of the add pack.