2019 Honda CRV 1.5L 51k mi; Kirkland 5w-30 4k mi

[gtical]

Very happy to see very low wear metals with no traces of coolant or excessive fuel in this oil sample.

Ive only used 5w-30(mostly Kirkland) since the first oil change at 2500 miles.

4000 miles on this oil. I would say about 3000 of it was short city trips. Looks like the oil got cooked based on the low viscosity.

Does anti-wear additive numbers lower as you use it more? I always seen this oil having around 80 ppm of moly.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Rand]

Its blackstone. their fuel % is wildly inaccurate.

IMO: from it being a budget oil its likely had some shearing from use as well as fuel dilution.
but you wont know from a blackstone UOA.

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

It's fine. 5w20 is allowed for this engine and the 5w30 gives you plenty of headroom.

 

[wemay]

It's fine. 5w20 is allowed for this engine and the 5w30 gives you plenty of headroom.

This

 

[RobbS]

5-W 30 Mobil1 EP recommend

 

[TomYoung]

Pretty sure the rec is 0W20

 

[edyvw]

Pretty sure the rec is 0W20

It is. But Honda’s DI technology is where VW was in 2003, so you have to deal with excessive dilution, especially in this engine.

 

[fantastic]

If the viscosity gets that low in 4k from fuel dilution then your doing good on selecting a 30 grade.

 

[gtical]

If the viscosity gets that low in 4k from fuel dilution then your doing good on selecting a 30 grade.

Mine does not have fuel dilution issue where the crankcase is filled with fuel. Oil level is always at the same level.

 

[Pablo]

Mine does not have fuel dilution issue where the crankcase is filled with fuel. Oil level is always at the same level.

That's what I said! I'm convinced it does NOT happen every OCI. But then it does happen.

 

[himemsys]

Mine does not have fuel dilution issue where the crankcase is filled with fuel. Oil level is always at the same level.

I bet if you got the oil analyzed by Oil Analyzers, they'd say there's much more fuel in there. BS's method is flawed. Our 2018 CRV went through three BS UOAs. Fuel was reported at 0.8%, 2.0%, and 1.5%. I have now gone through three OAI UOAs. They reported fuel at 4.4%, >5.0%, >5.0%. There was about the same viscosity loss (~20%) between all the reports.

 

[gtical]

I bet if you got the oil analyzed by Oil Analyzers, they'd say there's much more fuel in there. BS's method is flawed. Our 2018 CRV went through three BS UOAs. Fuel was reported at 0.8%, 2.0%, and 1.5%. I have now gone through three OAI UOAs. They reported fuel at 4.4%, >5.0%, >5.0%. There was about the same viscosity loss (~20%) between all the reports.

Link to your reports?

 

[himemsys]

Link to your reports?

You can search them here. Search my username and CRV in the UOA forum.

 

[kschachn]

I bet if you got the oil analyzed by Oil Analyzers, they'd say there's much more fuel in there. BS's method is flawed. Our 2018 CRV went through three BS UOAs. Fuel was reported at 0.8%, 2.0%, and 1.5%. I have now gone through three OAI UOAs. They reported fuel at 4.4%, >5.0%, >5.0%. There was about the same viscosity loss (~20%) between all the reports.

Agreed. Blackstone is useless for this determination. You have no idea about fuel from their estimation.

We’ve also seen significant discrepancies in their spectrographic analyses as well.

 

[Nessism1]

I'm a huge fan of the Honda 1.5T engine. The power is good, lots of low end torque, it's quiet as a church mouse, gets fantastic fuel economy, particularly on the highway, and while it is proven to dilute the oil with fuel, that's easily dealt with.

With my car, driven 95% in the city, short trip, I simply change the oil at 6 month intervals. It's a personal thing, maybe, because I love working on my car! Remove the filter, dump out the oil, and reinstall. Buy oil on sale, so about $20 a pop, or $40/year. I can afford it.

 

[Pablo]

I'm a huge fan of the Honda 1.5T engine. The power is good, lots of low end torque, it's quiet as a church mouse, gets fantastic fuel economy, particularly on the highway, and while it is proven to dilute the oil with fuel, that's easily dealt with.

Same here!

 

[fantastic]

Mine does not have fuel dilution issue where the crankcase is filled with fuel. Oil level is always at the same level.

Like already mentioned, unless you've gotten oil tested via gas chromatography you wont really know. Blackstone does not do the proper fuel testing and just use flash point as their reference. Do you have any other UOA for this CRV from a different lab? Also, oil level doesn't tell you if there is no fuel dilution. You could be burning oil but the fuel replaces that volume so it still shows full on your dipstick.

 

[4strokes]

I'm a huge fan of the Honda 1.5T engine. The power is good, lots of low end torque, it's quiet as a church mouse, gets fantastic fuel economy, particularly on the highway, and while it is proven to dilute the oil with fuel, that's easily dealt with.

With my car, driven 95% in the city, short trip, I simply change the oil at 6 month intervals. It's a personal thing, maybe, because I love working on my car! Remove the filter, dump out the oil, and reinstall. Buy oil on sale, so about $20 a pop, or $40/year. I can afford it.

Agree I change my oil when the OLM reaches 5O%

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Never use Blackstone for a report on known fuel diluter engines.
This 5w30 oil turned into water. Find an oil that doesn't shear anywhere near-as-much.
Mobil-1 EP 5w30 may be another $10 more and worth it. But that means one less hamburger Meal at McDonalds.... one less pack of cigarettes.... one less Door Dash delivery to your door....etc.

Your ride isn't worth another $20 a year more to you (two OCIs per year)?

 

[kschachn]

Never use Blackstone for a report on known fuel diluter engines.
This 5w30 oil turned into water. Find an oil that doesn't shear anywhere near-as-much.
Mobil-1 EP 5w30 may be another $10 more and worth it. But that means one less hamburger Meal at McDonalds.... one less pack of cigarettes.... one less Door Dash delivery to your door....etc.

Your ride isn't worth another $20 a year more to you (two OCIs per year)?

First you say don’t use a Blackstone report for fuel then you say the oil sheared. This isn’t a conclusion you can draw from this report. That’s the whole point and your suggestion makes no sense.

And what evidence is there that EP resists fuel dilution or mechanical shear any better than Kirkland?

Of course I’m on ignore with you so you won’t see my questions. But at least others will.