17,500 RPM's

[buster]

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17,500 RPM Test
The Mercedes-Benz Formula 1 engine is an amazing device. Although specific information is protected better than many government secrets, this 3.0-liter V-10 engine produces something in the neighborhood of 800 horsepower and can rev on the high side of 17,500 rpm.
Pretty amazing.

It takes an equally amazing motor oil to keep all that exotic metal working in harmony.

Naturally, Team McLaren Mercedes uses Mobil 1.

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[TallPaul]

I would be inclined to run Redline motor oil in that thing.

 

[buster]

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I would be inclined to run Redline motor oil in that thing

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I'm sure the engineers know what is best for that engine and I'm 100% positive that the oil inside that engine isn't Walmart M1. Mclaren and Penske have deep pockets so chosing a particular oil isn't about money.

 

[Drew99GT]

F1 engines are simply mind boggling. They essentially have infinite VTEC. The valves are operated with pneumatic silenoids, so the lift, duration, and timing is all electronic/computeized and can be adjusted in any fashion you want at any point in the rpm band. SWEET

 

[Steve S]

At the cost of those engines they run gold plated M1 oil.

 

[tom slick]

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Originally posted by Drew99GT:
F1 engines are simply mind boggling. They essentially have infinite VTEC. The valves are operated with pneumatic silenoids, so the lift, duration, and timing is all electronic/computeized and can be adjusted in any fashion you want at any point in the rpm band. SWEET

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caterpiller has a similar setup in the works for heavy equipment so the engine can constantly adjust the balance between power and fuel economy.

 

[tdi-rick]

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APRIL 21, 2005
Cosworth runs at 20,000rpm!
Cosworth Racing says that it regularly runs its 2,4-litre V8 development engine for next year at 20,000rpm, while the current V10 is running to 19,000rpm. While this does not necessarily mean that the new engines will produce more horsepower than the current 3-litre V10s it will mean that power outputs will not be anywhere near as small as the regulations are designed to make them.

In part this is due to the fact that the crankshaft of the new engines are shorter than those being used at the moment and that means that they have less problems with torsional twisting.

The cost of development of the new 2.4-litre V8s has been huge.

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[tdi-rick]

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MAY 4, 2005
Honda V8 runs at Mugello
The British American Racing test last week at Mugello resulted in the BAR-Hondas going fastest and completing an impressive number of laps. Officially the team was evaluating "further aerodynamic upgrades for the Spanish Grand Prix, as well as various tyre programmes and the introduction of the latest specification engines from Honda".

What they did not say was that the latest specification engines were the V8 engines for 2006.

The engine was fitted into a new prototype chassis which was run by Anthony Davidson and Enrique Bernoldi. Davidson completed a record test distance for the team over one day and also set the fastest time of the day 1m20.652s, two one-hundreths ahead of Takuma Sato and ahead of the Ferraris of Rubens Barrichello and Michael Schumacher. On the second day Bernoldi completed 151 laps with the car.

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[tdi-rick]

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MAY 9, 2005
Here comes the Mercedes-Benz V8
With Honda having run its V8 at Mugello recently, the race is on for other new engines appear and we hear that the first Mercedes-Benz V8 will be running in the back of a car in the week before Monaco, when the team does its pre-Grand Prix shakedown test at Elvington Aerodrome, near York.

It is expected that some of the current V10s may get up to 1000 horsepower by the end of the current season. A basic calculation means that cutting off two cylinders of a 3-litre V10 will produce the foundation for a 2.4-litre V8. This means that it is fairly easy to calculate the horsepower per cylinder and say that the new V8s ought to be beginning development at around 800 horsepower.

However, the engine designers are very confident that the reduction in the length of the crankshaft will reduce torsional twisting problems which have to date limited the revs and so the V8s will rev higher and thus produce more power, which means that the 2006 season could see the new engines starting off producing in the region of 830 or more at over 20,000rpm.

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[goodvibes]

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Originally posted by buster:

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17,500 RPM Test
The Mercedes-Benz Formula 1 engine is an amazing device. Although specific information is protected better than many government secrets, this 3.0-liter V-10 engine produces something in the neighborhood of 800 horsepower and can rev on the high side of 17,500 rpm.
Pretty amazing.

It takes an equally amazing motor oil to keep all that exotic metal working in harmony.

Naturally, Team McLaren Mercedes uses Mobil 1.

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This must be M1 Distended Mileage formula. Gauranteed to last for 200 miles.(F1 race length)

 

[jsharp]

The Honda F1 bike engines were spinning that fast in the 60's...

 

[Blokey]

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Originally posted by jsharp:
The Honda F1 bike engines were spinning that fast in the 60's...

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True. But the increase in technical difficulty in translating 18,000 rpm to a 3.0L V10 (or 22,000 rpm to a 2.4L V8) engine that must be competitive and reliable for two race weekends is exponential.

 

[DR Racing]

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F1 engines are simply mind boggling. They essentially have infinite VTEC. The valves are operated with pneumatic silenoids, so the lift, duration, and timing is all electronic/computeized and can be adjusted in any fashion you want at any point in the rpm band. SWEET

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Nope they have regular camshafts with pneumatic valve springs to eliminate valve float. Dan

 

[jsharp]

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Originally posted by Blokey:

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Originally posted by jsharp:
The Honda F1 bike engines were spinning that fast in the 60's...

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True. But the increase in technical difficulty in translating 18,000 rpm to a 3.0L V10 (or 22,000 rpm to a 2.4L V8) engine that must be competitive and reliable for two race weekends is exponential.

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All true. It's much easier when it's an 125cc or 250cc engine isn't it...