10w-30 conventional oil with best HTHS?

[tai]

OK, I know Castrol GTX and Pennzoil Purebase 10w30 have a HTHS rating of 3.1.

Are there any conventional 10w-30 oil that does better? For that matter, are there any ??w-30 that does as well?

Heck, are there any readily available synthetic 10w-30 oil that does better? (I know Amsoil does better.)

Thanks!

 

[dragboat]

Citgo Supergard 5/30 3.2> Not a typo,it's sibling 10/30 is 3.0 and has a lower vi at both 40 and 100C

Phillips Trop Artic Turbo 10/30 3.2

The Citgo 5/30 blend is 3.3 and the 10/30 is 3.5

The Mystik 10/30 Pao blend is 3.6,newer base stocks,old SH specs or additive packs

Most low cost 30wts are at the 3.0 3.1 mark. Not these.

I am not sure what the Motorcraft is,I have not received the updated specs yet. Of course there are some HD multigrades and straight wts that will give good numbers as well.

[ February 21, 2003, 06:27 PM: Message edited by: dragboat ]

 

[G-MAN]

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Originally posted by tai:
OK, I know Castrol GTX and Pennzoil Purebase 10w30 have a HTHS rating of 3.1.

Are there any conventional 10w-30 oil that does better? For that matter, are there any ??w-30 that does as well?

Heck, are there any readily available synthetic 10w-30 oil that does better? (I know Amsoil does better.)

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Mobil 1 5w30 and 10w30 have an HTHS of 3.2. Castrol Formula SLX 0w30 has an HTHS of 3.6.

 

[BrewCityR]

Schaeffer 10w30 doesn't count as a conventional but it is worth noting at 3.5!

 

[Patman]

I was looking at the specs for Pennzoil's 10w40 and it has a 3.7 HTHS, and at 13.5cst it's a thinner 40wt, so it could be substituted for 10w30 in a lot of cars.

 

[slickracer]

Pennzoil 10w30 is 3.2

 

[tai]

quote:

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Originally posted by slickracer:
Pennzoil 10w30 is 3.2

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Purebase?

 

[tai]

quote:

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Originally posted by Patman:
I was looking at the specs for Pennzoil's 10w40 and it has a 3.7 HTHS, and at 13.5cst it's a thinner 40wt, so it could be substituted for 10w30 in a lot of cars.

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I may have to give that a try. You seem to really like it, from your other posts, so it must be good.

 

[sprintman]

Patman/Johnny is that 10W40 Purebase? I like the HTHS figure.

 

[Patman]

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Originally posted by sprintman:
Patman/Johnny is that 10W40 Purebase? I like the HTHS figure.

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Yep, it's the Purebase stuff. I'm interesting in seeing how this does in a short interval, if it thins out like many other 10w40s do. Considering it's a thinner 40wt, I'm inclined to believe it doesn't use as much VII as other 10w40s, so it should theoretically stay closer in grade longer.

 

[dragboat]

Patman here is you some Pennzoil 10/40

SAE 10W-40 ULTRA TURBO
-SEMISINTETIC-

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Caracteristici:

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Proprietăţi fizico-chimice:

SAE ....................................................10W-40
Densitate (15,6 °C) ............. kg/l ............0,8715
Vâscozitate la 100 °C ......... cSt ............14,9
Vâscozitate la 40 °C ............cSt ..... ......101,6
Indice de vâscozitate .............................153
Punct de aprindere (ASTM D-92) .............210 °C
Cenuşă sulfaţi ............... %greutate .......1,09
T.B.N (ASTM D-2896) ... mg KOH/g ........8,8
Punct de curgere .................°C ...... ......-33.

 

[TooSlick]

Tai,

The Schaeffers Supreme 7000, 5w-30 and 10w-30 have the best high temp specs of any petroleum oil or synthetic blend I've seen. Both have HT/HS of at least 3.5 Cp @ 150C, so they meet the ACEA A3 specifications.

Most petroleum xw-30 oils have HT/HS in the 2.9-3.2 Cp range in order to optimize fuel efficiency. I don't agree with this approach and think it's better to meet the more stringent ACEA specs to prevent wear under high temp and high load conditions.

TooSlick