10k SL Schaeffers 15w40 1.9L Escort Wagon(gas)

[worriedboutoil]

Hi! My second post here and the first was minutes ago in the car lubrication section,,I am very impressed that this oil and driving style went that far! I want some of this oil,would you that see the other post please comment? I have seen the other analysis but this oil is tremendous in comparison to the more expensive oils!

By the way,this analysis is what made me finally sign up and post

Thank you.

 

[Bror Jace]

Worried, I'm trying the 7000 Supreme 10W30 in my Honda Civic with 123,000 miles on it right now. I'll test it after 4,000 miles or so and post the results on this forum.

I am using 15W40 (mostly Chevron Delo 400) in my lawn and garden equipment because of the high TBN and anti-wear which is good for these kinds of engines. I just switched our twin cylinder Honda tractor over to Schaeffer 7000 15W40. It may be a while before its oil is changed again and I want to make sure its protected for a long time.

--- Bror Jace

 

[MolaKule]

The additive package contains two or more of the following ingredients:

Zinc C1-C14 Alkyldithiophosphate; ZADTP, a variation of ZDDP, Fm, lower temp anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-corrosion.

Molybdenum dialkyldithiocarbamate MoDTC; Fm, anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-corrosion.

Antimony dialkyldithiocarbamate ADTC; FM, anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-corrosion.

Ethoxylated Long Chain Alkylamine; a surface active agent which causes spreading of the AW additives and is slicker than s..., well - snot.

 

[BOBISTHEOILGUY]

and is slicker than s..., well - snot

 

[MolaKule]

BTW, the " Ethoxylated Long Chain Alkylamine; a surface active agent which causes spreading of the AW additives and is slicker than s..., well - snot,"
is also the agent that causes climbing in the gear oils and the DexronIII #204S.

If it gets on the ouside of lab glasware, better have a solvent to wash it off or you will not be able to hold on to it, guranteed!

 

[Patman]

quote:

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Originally posted by BOBISTHEOILGUY:
and is slicker than s..., well - snot

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Hmmm...I've got an idea. Next time my 10 month old gets the sniffles, I'll take a sample and send it in for analysis! I could possibly stumble upon a better antiwear additive than moly!

 

[dragboat]

Molakule posted:
"The additive package contains two or more of the following ingredients:

Zinc C1-C14 Alkyldithiophosphate; ZADTP, a variation of ZDDP, Fm, lower temp anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-corrosion.

Molybdenum dialkyldithiocarbamate MoDTC; Fm, anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-corrosion.

Antimony dialkyldithiocarbamate ADTC; FM, anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-corrosion.

Ethoxylated Long Chain Alkylamine; a surface active agent which causes spreading of the AW additives and is slicker than s..., well - snot."

This is the Sheafferes oil correct?

 

[ShootingStar]

quote:

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Originally posted by BOBISTHEOILGUY:
and is slicker than s..., well - snot

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A little OT but... I've used S.T.O.S. (Slicker Than Owl $hit) gun lube in my competition shotgun for YEARS!

 

[dragboat]

Bob,not knocking your driving style but have this in mind.
I wonder how far that oil would have went in commuter service like my Wifes car,all Interstate Hiway 30 or so miles each way,1 mile to and off the Interstate and parked on weekends. You know,almost a ideal situation for a engine and a oil! And a sensible driver

What I am getting at,it looks to be the oil to run 7500 and change the filter but not advertised so

Of course,driving conditions/motor integrity conditions vary but just about speechless.

And the price is around 3 bucks a quart based on mimimum order?

 

[BOBISTHEOILGUY]

Yeah, I get awfully bored with 65mph on longgggg trips so I try not to drag it out.

I'd agree that if I respected my engine more, chances are I'd have slightly better results, but considering my nature of driving with this analysis, It did quite well IMO.

3.00 bucks a qt retail, less if doing a wholesale order of 250.00 minimum.

 

[Pops]

I hope it is Ok to post this here but the local farmers and a OTR friend are the ones that told me about Shaeffers oil. I am very happy with the oil.I put the 10/30 in my Wifes 01 Toyota Echo and change at 7 thousand miles. Am I changing it too soon? It does not seem to burn oil because the dipstick stays full. It actually looks pretty good still at those miles. All hiway miles and about 3 thousand miles per month by the way.

[ September 13, 2002, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: Pops ]

 

[Patman]

Pops, like I posted in another thread, you are probably changing it too soon at 7k, based on all the highway miles you do. Once you start doing oil analysis, you'll be able to pinpoint proper intervals though.

And Bob, with your leadfoot how come you're driving such a small car? You need a big honkin V8 muscle machine!

 

[David]

Patman, you said "Bob, with your leadfoot how come you're driving such a small car? You need a big honkin V8 muscle machine!"

Patman, don't you want Bob around for a while longer?

Would you really want him to get a big honkin V8 muscle machine?
Why do you think he drives a 1.9L 4cly ?

 

[dragboat]

Dang! What results! Here I am looking for the perfect oil and it seems it is right under my nose!

Bror,looking foward to your results,more so than you might know

 

[MolaKule]

Dragboat,

Yes, Schaeffer's.

The last three ingrediants listed are what you will find also find contained in Moly EP Additive #132. Moly EP additive has no Zinc C1-C14 Alkyldithiophosphate; ZADTP, a variation of ZDDP, Fm, lower temp anti-wear, anti-oxidant, anti-corrosion.

Ethoxylated Long Chain Alkylamine; a surface active agent which causes spreading of the AW additives is also called a "wetting" agent. It wets or coats the metal with the barrier additives, and sinks into every "pore."

 

[Patman]

Hehe good point David!

That's also why I bought my wife a 106hp Civic, she drives like a maniac, so I can't let her have a lot of horsepower!

 

[dragboat]

To The Top!

Enough anaylisis's are in that I wanted to bring this 3 buck a quart oil back up.

Bob,I cannot help but wonder how much lower those wear numbers would have been if my Wife was driving the car,,you lead foot you

Thats a dang good oil regardless of price. It should cost more,don't let Schaeffers know this

 

[Patman]

One point I'd like to raise here. Bob was saying earlier that he felt the conventional Schaeffers could run just as long an interval as the blend. So are you saying the conventional stuff would be able to do a 10k drain like this? Seems a bit far fetched for a conventional of any kind to be able to pull off a 10k interval and run numbers like the blend does.

 

[dragboat]

Quote:
"So are you saying the conventional stuff would be able to do a 10k drain like this?"

I did not see anything I wrote of the likes of that? I said it was a dang good oil for the price is all.

Bob is going to post a 4k run of the "conventional" though. It could be somewhat compared to this in PMM of wear vs miles I guess?

 

[Patman]

It wasn't you that said it Dragboat, it was Bob who mentioned that the conventional Schaeffers could go as long as the blend. I'll go look for that quote now. BRB.