Original Post:
2007 Maybach 57s AMG delivered 6/2007 with 125 miles on the odometer. I took a sample after driving 15 miles home from work with 2,000 miles on the clock. The car comes with a twin turbo 6.0 liter V12 (my old “regular” Maybach 57 had a 5.5 liter V12). It has 612 BHP and 738 ft lbs torque. Driving: spirited around town, some highway driving, maybe 10 percent.
This sample has the viscosity of a low 40, almost a 30 grade oil. This makes me feel comfortable using a 20 grade oil.
The regular Maybach 57 did spec. several 30 but mostly 40 grade oils. This engine only specs. all 40 grade oils. Note that the smaller engine was rev limited to 150 MPH whereas the AMG engine allows for 175 MPH. This is a big difference in oil heating in my book. Since I will have no oppurtunity to go over 100 MPH there are no reasons to go with the 40 grade oil.
Aug/2008 Update:
‘Dyson analysis of this Red Line 5W-20 with 5,000 miles on the oil and now 7,000 miles on the car. I put in RLI oil now, running the 0W-20 grade. I will get another Dyson analysis after having 5,000 miles on this RLI oil and a total of 12,000 miles on the car.
I used up the tires (with proper rotation) at 6,000 miles. I like to light them up when I can:
June/2009 Update:
I just put on another set of tires, I only get 6,000 miles on them the way I drive. I did two UOA, the one on the most right from Dyson Analysis. Both samples were drawn into one container originally so there would be no chance of them being any different.
Also I put 2 other samples into bottles to be sent out several months apart. The experiment is to see how the results change if the sealed sample bottle is left to sit around for several months. Results to follow in the months to come.
____New OEM __Red Line_RLI__RLI-Dyson
Unknown 2000mi__5000__5250__5250___Miles on the oil
________2000mi__7000_12250_12250___Miles on the car
................................................................................................................
Iron__________23___25__38__38
Chromium _____0___1____1___1
Nickel _________0___0___ Aluminum _____22__19___9__11
lead __________0___3____1___2
Copper _______17__20____8__9
Tin ___________9__15____5__0
Silver _________0___0__ Titanium ______0___0___ Silicon ________19__20___6__5
Boron _________187_30___9__10
Sodium ________8___34__9___5
Potassium ______4__0__ Molybdenum __ 88__885__99__95
Phosphorus ___927_1270__838_853
Zinc _______1079_1408_963_1056
Calcium ___ 3086_2534_2271_1923
Barium _______1___5___ Magnesium ____62__30___24__18
Antimony ______0___0__189__131
Vanadium ______0___1___ Fuel %Vol ____neg_1.77__8.0__1.16
Abs Oxid ______NA__157__93__161
Abs Nitr _______NA__14___14__14
Wtr %vol _____neg_778KF_ Vis CS 100C __12.6__8.0__8.3__9.3
Vis CS 40C_____NA___50__NA__44
Vic index______NA__131__NA__202
SAE Grade ____40___20___20__low 30/high 20
Gly test _____neg__neg___neg__neg
TBN ______not done_2.8__ND___2.2
TAN_______not done_3.32_ND__3.1
Soot_________NA____0____nd___0
Sulfate By Product_NA_100_NA_115
Particles Counts:Only on first sample of the OEM oil:
>5__________33603
>10_________4138
>15_________228
>20_________83
>25_________48
>50_________11
>75_________5
>100________2
Ferrous debris__9, Particle Volume__6
6-17-09 Comments from Terry Dyson of Dyson Analysis:
The engine is still breaking in and nicely, rings are sealing better, no wear on turbos. The fuel was handled well by the oil, not thinning it at all. The 1 % fuel dilution value is correct as opposed to the 8 % value. The flash point is still nice and high.
This 20 grade oil is working well with this engine despite me lighting up the tires on a regular basis.
aehaas
2007 Maybach 57s AMG delivered 6/2007 with 125 miles on the odometer. I took a sample after driving 15 miles home from work with 2,000 miles on the clock. The car comes with a twin turbo 6.0 liter V12 (my old “regular” Maybach 57 had a 5.5 liter V12). It has 612 BHP and 738 ft lbs torque. Driving: spirited around town, some highway driving, maybe 10 percent.
This sample has the viscosity of a low 40, almost a 30 grade oil. This makes me feel comfortable using a 20 grade oil.
The regular Maybach 57 did spec. several 30 but mostly 40 grade oils. This engine only specs. all 40 grade oils. Note that the smaller engine was rev limited to 150 MPH whereas the AMG engine allows for 175 MPH. This is a big difference in oil heating in my book. Since I will have no oppurtunity to go over 100 MPH there are no reasons to go with the 40 grade oil.
Aug/2008 Update:
‘Dyson analysis of this Red Line 5W-20 with 5,000 miles on the oil and now 7,000 miles on the car. I put in RLI oil now, running the 0W-20 grade. I will get another Dyson analysis after having 5,000 miles on this RLI oil and a total of 12,000 miles on the car.
I used up the tires (with proper rotation) at 6,000 miles. I like to light them up when I can:
June/2009 Update:
I just put on another set of tires, I only get 6,000 miles on them the way I drive. I did two UOA, the one on the most right from Dyson Analysis. Both samples were drawn into one container originally so there would be no chance of them being any different.
Also I put 2 other samples into bottles to be sent out several months apart. The experiment is to see how the results change if the sealed sample bottle is left to sit around for several months. Results to follow in the months to come.
____New OEM __Red Line_RLI__RLI-Dyson
Unknown 2000mi__5000__5250__5250___Miles on the oil
________2000mi__7000_12250_12250___Miles on the car
................................................................................................................
Iron__________23___25__38__38
Chromium _____0___1____1___1
Nickel _________0___0___ Aluminum _____22__19___9__11
lead __________0___3____1___2
Copper _______17__20____8__9
Tin ___________9__15____5__0
Silver _________0___0__ Titanium ______0___0___ Silicon ________19__20___6__5
Boron _________187_30___9__10
Sodium ________8___34__9___5
Potassium ______4__0__ Molybdenum __ 88__885__99__95
Phosphorus ___927_1270__838_853
Zinc _______1079_1408_963_1056
Calcium ___ 3086_2534_2271_1923
Barium _______1___5___ Magnesium ____62__30___24__18
Antimony ______0___0__189__131
Vanadium ______0___1___ Fuel %Vol ____neg_1.77__8.0__1.16
Abs Oxid ______NA__157__93__161
Abs Nitr _______NA__14___14__14
Wtr %vol _____neg_778KF_ Vis CS 100C __12.6__8.0__8.3__9.3
Vis CS 40C_____NA___50__NA__44
Vic index______NA__131__NA__202
SAE Grade ____40___20___20__low 30/high 20
Gly test _____neg__neg___neg__neg
TBN ______not done_2.8__ND___2.2
TAN_______not done_3.32_ND__3.1
Soot_________NA____0____nd___0
Sulfate By Product_NA_100_NA_115
Particles Counts:Only on first sample of the OEM oil:
>5__________33603
>10_________4138
>15_________228
>20_________83
>25_________48
>50_________11
>75_________5
>100________2
Ferrous debris__9, Particle Volume__6
6-17-09 Comments from Terry Dyson of Dyson Analysis:
The engine is still breaking in and nicely, rings are sealing better, no wear on turbos. The fuel was handled well by the oil, not thinning it at all. The 1 % fuel dilution value is correct as opposed to the 8 % value. The flash point is still nice and high.
This 20 grade oil is working well with this engine despite me lighting up the tires on a regular basis.
aehaas