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If you buy it for $26, and get $10 rebate and $4 WM cash, its a good reason to run also :)

I am sure it's a fine oil. This thread is not about comparing Mobil1 AC to other oils.

Yes, I am on my 2nd m1 AC. Will send it for oil analysis when its time to change it.

Oil was only around for 8 month, you are saying that you put 6x3500+3x3500 miles (31500) on your car in 8 month?

The performance change is also not quantifiable. We all know that they are looking for ways to make things cheaper, and have us believe that performance is the same or better. Cheaper/faster/better

besides no PAO, there are other things that you can see changed: 1. cSt got lower at 100C. 5w-30 is now 9.75 cSt, thats too low IMHO 2. Pour points moved from -50C to -30C, I guess another confirmation of PAO substitute

Looks like they listened to my comment and have corrected PDS to include Dexos gen3 for 0w20 and 5w30. Their technical support was not very helpful, they first states its no longer Dexos gen3. Only after I told them that I see bottles in the store with Dexos logo they had to follow up with...

https://promotions.mobil.com/rebates/

The crazy part is that they have rebate tracker website, but they dont put anything there until its processed. You have to email them to check. I think this is intentional confusion

Privately owned companies can do whatever they want, in public companies you have investors that may have a say.

I just submitted screenshot of the invoice that shows “delivered” along with order number and items. Hopefully thats enough. The problem is that they dont have any status for rebate and you have to email them to check status.

They must get bigger bonus if they reject more

Reply and ask exactly why

When times are rough, you might have to put 5w-30 instead ….

I guess some genius removed Dexos from the documents by accident. This was escalated to management!

If this is true, what a chaos!

Well, I have more updates Mobil tech support. They are now claiming its a mistake. This is when I questioned them about having a bottle with Dexos logo: We just received conformation that the Mobil 1 Advanced Clean 0W-20 and 5W-30 are dexos1 gen3 approved. The Website is in the process of...

Yes, I heard water spins in other direction in toilets and sinks, physics is different there

Now is the best time to buy SUVs if you want one.

“Tighter engine tolerances require thinner oil”. If this was true, how is it possible that Australian owner manual has oils 0w-16, 0w-20, and 5w-30 for the same engine? Where is the logic?