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https://www.oil-club.ru/forum/topic/89954-mobil-1-esp-5w-30-api-sp-svezhee-2024/?utm_source=google.com&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=google.com&utm_referrer=google.com Link to the full analysis. Oxidation = 13.6 - indicates the presence of an ester additive that performs a predominantly...

New stuff. SP formula. Ill try and find it again shouldn't be to hard

The FTIR i saw on Mobil 1 ESP 5w-30 did not show AN

Its 100% a typo, i would email them but ive asked them questions alot and they dont seem to know anything. The older SP formula had dexos 1 listed for 0w-20 but not for SQ. But i have bought SQ 0w-20 and it is dexos 1. Ive watched these pages like crazy waiting to see if there was a formulation...

It wasnt there to begin with when they updated to gf-7 but the jugs on the shelf have it so its definitely a typo

It still is, thats a typo. Notice the pour point for 10w-30 is .36 as well

GM probably wont budge on the license since they moved from GTL to II+

50x better in the IIIH test. Only 2% viscosity increase in that test.

Interesting! Ill have to one day, i think some folks think Valvoline Restore and Protect is strong to but honestly i thought that was quite mild.

Its honestly wild lol. I was bamboozled. Its similar but stronger than the c40-gt but i wonder if its from an antioxidant thats in both oils maybe

Hey i quit drinking i gotta use that whiskey sniffer for somethin!

EP GF-7 25,000 mile label is super strong. The SP/GF-6 version was pretty mild

Maybe they are making cuts in some labels to protect other labels. Looks like truck and suv changed to, maybe they are eliminating GTL in some labels to keep it in others. Possibly trimming PAO to use it in more importage products IDK totally just spitballing here.

Im assuming before. It was probably a month ago i used some. Ill buy the newest bottling date i can find and see if it smells different. I still got the other bottle so i can compare

They are not the same at all. You can tell just by smelling them (important note, you can't discern anything meaningful about the formulas from smell alone other than they are different) Advanced clean smells really mild and EP is a punch in the face strongest oil ive ever smelled, puts redline...

before it was GTL/PAO. Now it looks to be group II+ and PAO. Likely done to keep it available since GTL is gone.

51 quarts esp x2 0w-20 35 quarts Castrol EDGE Extended Performance 0w20 30 quarts Mobil 1 ESP 0w30 4 gallons delvac 1300 super 15w-40 2 gallons HPL Super Car 0w-40 12 quarts redline 0w-20 6 quarts mobil 1 c40-gt 0w-40 6 quarts esp x3 0w-40

@Foxtrot08 confirmed this

These are SN era euro formulas using the same additive package. They came with 500ppm boron and 1700 calcium with no magnesium. The difference between these is HPL boosts magnesium, redline adds moly and boosts ZDDP. Redline has been reformulated for API SP and no longer contains 500ppm boron

Like 7 jugs of ESP x2 0w-20 and 2 jugs of Mobil 1 ESP 0w30