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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: ISO55000 Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: ISO55000 I dont need your labs I have my own facility and ISO labs under contract, just give me your test parameters and I will take it from there without all the area 57.5 secrecy...

Originally Posted By: Nate1979 ISO55000, calling people slick is childish. I read your long winded posts and learn almost nothing because there is little to no meat in your posts. You try to act like an expert but don't actually say anything. Sadly true and I regret that but there are times...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: ISO55000 I dont need your labs I have my own facility and ISO labs under contract, just give me your test parameters and I will take it from there without all the area 57.5 secrecy for all the world to see and judge for themselves. I'm...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: ISO55000

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: 901Memphis Do you have any access to any tests for passenger car filters in your career? Maybe you can get a filter tested with your connections in the field? Good point ... I can put ISO55000 in touch with an independent test lab that does...

Originally Posted By: 901Memphis Originally Posted By: ISO55000 Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix ^^^ And what doesn't make sense is for a full synthetic oil filter to have such a bad efficiency. Every other full synthetic on the market is in the high 90% range at 20 microns. I mean if WIX wanted...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: ISO55000 Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: fredfactory ---- Number of passes through? (when to stop the test...) and this matters because of a very few oil filters passenger cars out there that have a small parallel path...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: fredfactory ---- Number of passes through? (when to stop the test...) and this matters because of a very few oil filters passenger cars out there that have a small parallel path fine-filtration media in it where it takes hours for the tiniest...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: ISO55000 nice cover story and publically available. Problem is that if you understand each part you have automatically falsified and invalidated all your claims on other threads. Why did you make false claims in the first place? Your...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix ^^^ And what doesn't make sense is for a full synthetic oil filter to have such a bad efficiency. Every other full synthetic on the market is in the high 90% range at 20 microns. I mean if WIX wanted the XP to be "long use filter", they could have done that with...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Here is a basic synopsis of ISO 4548-12 for those who don't know exactly what it addresses. There are 12 parts in ISO 4548 ... this is -12 (the 12th test part). ISO 4548-12:2000 ---------------- Methods of test for full-flow lubricating oil filters for internal...

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL So basically the results from part 12 in a vacuum are what we are meant to take away from the advertising material but the information presented is: A) Not comparable to data from other manufacturers directly due to variances allowed in the protocol B) Not...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: Oil Changer I think Z06 is going to go on vacation and 'Memphis will put you on ignore so you don't confuse him with facts. I see a changing of the guard in the oil filter forum. Don't worry ... I'm reading this. I don't sit on this computer...

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix Originally Posted By: ISO55000 This will take a day or 2 to digest and compare but one thing is clearly stated for the world to see ( just short of 100 pages for both with a lot of detailed testing parameters to review line by line) 9.1.1 "ensure the test fluid...

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL Wonderful! So, it would seem the next logical step would be to attempt to get the test parameters used by the filter manufacturers of interest and see how they differ. Sir There is no possibility of that ever happening because of parts 1-11 of the standard and...

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL My question in light of this wonderful presentation of information is that, despite the rather open nature of some of these parameters, I am curious as to what the filter manufacturer's test against? IE, does Purolator use a standard oil temperature and test...

Originally Posted By: Oil Changer I think Z06 is going to go on vacation and 'Memphis will put you on ignore so you don't confuse him with facts. I see a changing of the guard in the oil filter forum. That may be and if so that is fine. I am not challenging any individual but claims in...

Now I have facts and data regarding the IC filter testing criteria to combine with experience and I am used to this type of comparison. Bring the claims, “area 53 tests” and anything else and we will subject them to the acid test of empirical science and see where they stand. This will be done...

Originally Posted By: fredfactory Much appreciated! Its what oil filters use to brag about their product. Older tests were sometimes single-pass, and we know thats not applicable fully. Then these multi-pass tests appeared because obviously the oil just keeps going round and around in there...