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Yes, the 2.4l, 2.0t also known as the Theta II is the majority of their problems. They claimed it was fixed with the re-design that detuned it to 185hp in 2015, but then those started failing too. The 2.0nu (non-turbo) seems to be less problematic, though its earlier 1.8l version did end up...

Originally Posted by wemay But I will admit, my wife's Hyundai SFS 2.0T is a significantly more refined engine. Until it starts burning massive amounts of oil and throws a rod.

Originally Posted by wdn Toyota sells more than 2,000,000 cars a year the US and 250 of them have an issue. That is 1 car affected per 8,000 cars sold. Originally Posted by jayjr1105 Looks like Both Toyota and Honda are struggling with modern engines. Yea seriously... I was going to say...

Originally Posted by caprice_2nv Originally Posted by benjy girlfriends oil thirsty 2013 malibu 2.5 using a qt on a thou at 62 thou is gone. iu used from new + got progressively worse!!! replaced by a preowned kia optima 2.4 that uses NONE, NO MORE GM JUNK!!! Replaced by an engine also known...

Originally Posted by Falcon_LS The Koreans have come a long way, much like the Japanese compared to the 60s and 70s. In fact, if I was buying a brand spanking new car right now, I would pick a Hyundai/Kia over a Toyota or Honda the way their cars are built. YMMV. I thought this too, then I...

Originally Posted by ondarvr The problem is car technology is changing so rapidly they don't have time to work out all the bugs before a totally redesigned new model is on the lot. All manufacturers are having problems. Exactly why I got the 2017 Camry in my sig as DD. Yea, it's basic, and...

Originally Posted by wdn Or, they will be the ones to lose the key themselves and deny any responsibility. Happened to me twice in the 6 years I had my Corolla. No one was going to steal those 16" wheels anyway...

Originally Posted by jstert fwiw ive suburban-test driven both the mazda cx9 and kia sorento 4cyl. the cx9 felt ponderous, the sorento felt nimble, which surprised me as i was looking for the former's zoom-zoom. the sorento is a nice package. 4cyl Sorento has the Theta II engine. Stay away.

Originally Posted by csandste Originally Posted by smc733 I would not be buying a Hyundai with a Theta II engine that saw rental use. That's just a recipe for disaster. When Hertz buys cars, they plan on getting rid of them at (approximately) 38,000 miles. They're regularly serviced. Many...

I would not be buying a Hyundai with a Theta II engine that saw rental use. That's just a recipe for disaster.

I just got rid of my 2016 Sonata for a 2017 Camry. While the Sonata was more bang for the buck (have to put in aftermarket CarPlay in the Camry), I sleep better at night with the Toyota. The whole Theta II engine fiasco is still sort of a black hole. Issues are reported up to and including 2018...

Originally Posted by Linctex Originally Posted by smc733 On the side of keeping the Sonata, the absolute lowest cost would probably be to throw in another junkyard Theta II (with god knows what condition/life left in it) and keep gambling. $3k is getting you a junkyard motor without any...

A lot of factory systems suck. I'd get the car you want and put in something like the Sony XAV-AX100 (or AX5000 for an upgraded unit). Plus you can get CarPlay if you want it (which I only find useful for maps).

Originally Posted by AC1DD One thing that stands out is that the exchanged a bulletproof 6 speed auto for a questionable 8 speed for an extra MPG or two...bad decision. Very bad. Engine problems ...even Scotty Kilmer has said that Toyota is becoming just as problematic as the average car...

Originally Posted by csandste Originally Posted by madRiver Toyota is not immune to engine, transmission or any other issue. A certain percentage(tiny) have problems. The issue with Toyota is they sell a ton of models you mention so enough people complain and internet amplifies. People who are...

Originally Posted by supton Originally Posted by wdn Originally Posted by LeakySeals How about rust? How do they hold up in the salt? I had my Elantra for 10 New Hampshire winters never rustproofed and parked outside. Sometimes parked oceanside for months at a time in New England (son served...

Originally Posted by TmanP I've heard the same but have also heard of many people very happy with their 18s/19s. Who really knows, but, yes, their mileage is nothing short of impressive (especially for such a big car). For what it's worth, the previous gen (2012-2017) are good for around 35-40...

@CKN What year was your son's Sonata? They do seem to be replacing out of warranty, but it's certainly a hassle and potentially dangerous depending on when/where it fails.

Originally Posted by Nick1994 Nope, I wanted a car with more power, didn't get the V6 Genesis, I got the 420hp V8 model. The far better financial decision would have been to keep the Sonata and drive the wheels off of it. Even if the engine blew, spending $3,000 on an engine is a lot cheaper...

Originally Posted by Nick1994 Had 107k miles on my 15' Sonata, traded it in almost 3 weeks ago. Was an excellent car, only issue was a CV boot started to tear. Had new OEM boots installed for around $200. Now have a 15' Genesis 5.0L, very happy with it. I'll create a write up on it soon. Just...