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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Holy ****! PM me your info, we have to chat! The Torco is great cold and hot. The 997 is not my favorite shifter, but the Torco definitely improved cold shifting. Warm is pretty similar to whatever the factory fill was.
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Thank you very much for the info. I wound up going with Amsoil Euro FS 5w40. It seemed to be a solid choice, especially for the preferred pricing. I run Torco SGO for gear oil.
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Thanks for the recommendation. FYI, There is no engine out maintenance on either of these, and if there was, I would be performing it at my shop. I daily Toyotas, and it doesn’t matter which car it is, I want to minimize engine wear and maximize longevity. Corolla, Ferrari, I just want to...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Thank you for the informative post! Yup, I have looked at Pennzoil Platinum Euro, it also seems to be on the light side of a 40 weight similar to M1.
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    I agree. But same “issue” manifested on two separate reports 6k miles and 3 years apart. So I am just doing some due diligence to see if there is something to it, or if there’s something better out there. Weird though that a guy who does independent testing ran into the same “issue” I have...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Sure do. So you can mention that to the dealer when you’re transmission is slipping in your Cayenne or the motor is sludged in your Macan because you followed Porsche’s recommended maintenance. Guys, let’s please stay on track and just stick to experience and factual/chemistry based...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Here come the comments we all know and love. Let’s see here…all the oils mentioned have the Porsche A40 spec, and oh btw so does the Mobil 1 that I have been using that has been shearing out of grade. The spec is a MINIMUM standard, and perhaps my usage is a bit more aggressive than the spec...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    That’s very possible that there’s a newer Mobil 1 formulation that stays within grade better, but according to the data sheets, Mobil 1 seems to always be on the lighter side to begin with VOA. I’m not ruling out fuel dilution, but I do not idle any of my cars up to temp. Also, these are port...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Wow thanks folks for the informed responses. Understood all of your points…however, when I have the same engine and same oil change interval and run a few fills of different oils, I think that is a fair test to compare the performance of different oils while keeping most other variables equal...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    That’s exactly what I am thinking. So I guess it comes down to price and availability. Amsoil is like $11.xx/q and Redline is $17/q. I think I can get the Redline from FCP Euro.
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Yes! Thank you for validating my thought process. For my application, I have been prioritizing HTHS, cold flow, and warm viscosity of the oils I am cross shopping. With that said, it seems that Amsoil Euro FS or Redline 5w40 may be the way to go. (cold viscosity, warm viscosity, HTHS) Amsoil...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Thanks for the suggestion, and I will definitely look into it. Again, if it’s available at Walmart, that would be a huge plus but I’m not sure they carry that viscosity on the shelf. Totally agree with your point on used oil analysis, but unfortunately it would take me a decade to experiment...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Honestly, I’m not certain. The gauges are kinda worthless on both cars. The oil change capacity is 9L for the GT3 and 10L for the F430. Right, but they seem similar nonetheless, so you would think they would perform similarly in that application. Also, my GT3 is a 2010…so very different...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Thanks for the info I will dig through that. I just watched the short video on the Porsche GT cars, and that’s shocking considering how close ESP and C40 GT are on paper. 5w40. Shell Helix or something…basically whatever brand was paying Ferrari at the time. In fact all the recommended fluids...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Thank you! It’s pretty simple. In general, heavier weight oils withstand temperature, sheer, and loads better than lighter oils. There is a range of kinematic velocity for each grade of oil…not one specific number. So some oils can be on the heavier side of a grade and some on the lighter...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    From what I understand Pennzoil Platinum Euro is identical to Quaker State Euro, which would be fine. But they are both on the lighter side of a 40 weight oil, and there are also reports of “foaming”…but that is from fchat so take that with a grain of salt.
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Ah gotcha. Is it available at Walmart, because that would be a huge plus. Also, what is with all the new versions of M1?…supercar, FS, Euro, X2? This stuff makes my head spin, which I’m sure is the intended effect. I just looked up super car and x2 5w50 and they both seem pretty robust...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Well, to be honest I have always liked Torco’s driveline lubes and run them in all my vehicles (trans/diff/transfer case), and really like the feel on the manual transmission lubes especially in the cold (S2000, GT3). Their driveline lubes are GL6 certified, which does even exist anymore. I...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    I appreciate the quick responses. I have not considered a heavier Mobil 1 than 5w40. What is the rationale behind the Mobil 1 5w50 recommendation? Does it have the A40 spec and the Ferrari spec (can’t remember it, but I thinks it’s similar to BMW LL1). Not the best pics, but just got a...
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    Ferrari F430 and 997 GT3 Motor Oil

    Good Evening! Long time lurker, first time poster here. I have learned a lot from this site, so much so that I never actually registered for an account! I was always able to find the information I needed backed with quantitative data to make an informed decision. I am pretty green when it...
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