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Amsoil changed the XL to Extended Life. Looks much closer to SS and rated for 20,000. Good shot of Moly and Boron.

Trans case can run 75w85. Straight from a Toyota Engineer. It's in my 22 and zero issues.

5w30 all day.

Decision is after many, many UOAs I have done over a 4 to 5 k run any decent oil will provide good results. I also now know Amsoil is not the worth the money in shorter runs. I would never do long runs anyway. CAFE is not getting me :)

Well, if I did 50 back to back with same two products my guess is results would be the same. Which means using Valvoline EP would save me $54 every 4100 miles.

I have it in NY 2020 Tundra. Smooth

Yes.

Still in 5W30 range for a car that calla for 0w20.

Report says 5100 miles on Valvoline EP but that's a typo it was 4100. I will be sticking with Valvoline EP on 5k runs.

If I am wrong then Valvoline lied to me.

With all due respect I don't care what you want. I got my answer from the source. You have Google look up their # and call them.

Valvoline Tech Line (Steve).

You were arong. EP is rocking sales and VOA/UOA is outstanding. Additive pack as strong as Amsoil SS.

It uses a tad more PAO and double Moly and a tad thicker.

Valvoline EP.

Impossible for Signature Series or XL for that matter don't use Grp 4 maybe some 5. Look at the pour points. I also believe both have plenty of good Grp 3 or 3+. One will never know. But Amsoil and a few other like Chevron. Mag 1 and Phillip 66 PCMO post the most technical data for sure.

You would be wrong this time. But either way doesn't matter. Amsoil SS.is my choice Always has been and always will be. Doesn't hurt my bank and I sleep well. 2

I have a K5 as my father in law has Dementhia and lost license. Gave it to us. I have a 2020 Tundra that is now a weekend driver and K5 Min to Fri to work. All good. Both are paid off:)

I don't waste my money?