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Again, see if you can secure that document or get a bulletin number off of the document. Im guessing he just told you what you wanted to hear...

It is in the manual about using alternate oils for hard use, towing etc. but never states which oils… so you never got anything in writing? That sucks because I thought you had something. You should ask for that documentation, or at least get a bulletin release number for reference

What dealer is that? I called my local and they told me that if I dont use 0W8 that it would void the warranty. Even though I quoted the OM stating that Toyota is saying that you can use an alternative viscosity if its hard use etc...

Honestly Im not sure.

Well that was how the conversion would take place... I dont know why you think Im doing something nefarious? I never gave that notion, and if I did at some point, it wasnt on purpose. Im going to ask them what the oil recommendations are, how it will be driven and the excerpt about severe...

Not gaslighting, the manual clearly states you can run high viscosity, Im going to ask them via email so its not their word against mine. I want to know what they consider ok to do. Thats the most honest thing you could do, no?

cool!

Yeah IMO sever driving is over 65 and well most of our roads are over that, as you said - if not youll get ran off the road.

60k isnt cheap for a car that isnt worth that. everything is expensive, I dont have money to just throw away, so I like to try and maintain adherence to what we're told to do.

Ah yeah, I cant use that chart for here, yea sure its the same engine but seeing as this will be under warranty until the day I get rid of it, the best I can do would be 0w16. Which according to the contradictory manual, is okay for sever service. What Im going to do most likely is ask the...

I guess that makes sense, nothing says we have to keep receipts. I mean it says we can run 0w16 which is what I would most likely run, or even an 0w20 that would end up or be close to an 0w16 anyway, that even a test wouldnt be able to tell the difference. But that image is NOT what is in the...

Well this thread is going to be bunk ( at least for me... ) because the 2025 that we're getting... it now calls for 0w8 lol

Whtas crazy is why did the axe the viscosity from 0w16 to 0w8 on the SAME engine just a year later? Doesnt make sense...

so we havent taken ownership of the vehicle yet, it was more-so of a looking into the future on what to use etc. But I pulled the manual for the 2025 hybrid Grand Highlander with 2.5l and it says 0w8 lol and I can use 0w16 if I cannot find the 8wt. It does also have the same "foot note" that...

Hey no doubt, I get it. But when these things are 60k and not even worth that IMO, I dont want to give them any reason to deny it. What if they ask for receipts? Do they even require us to keep receipts?

Thanks. I plan on having a factory warranty on this till day zero, so Im going to have to play by the rules with the viscosity. Thus 0w16 & 0w20 is my only options. The 0w20 options might play a part here and there since it specifically states I have to change it out the next oil change is...

So all in all, you're sticking with 0w16. Thanks for the post! Have you done any oil analysis by any chance? I tried to look some up for the 2.5 hybrids, but I couldnt find any. Im going to search now that Im home, it's a bit easier on a PC vs cell.

I wonder if that would be a viable option, the little extra cost vs M1 in this case might be worth it, IF running it double the length OCI... interesting

Thanks for the replies guys... Does anyone know why it says 0w20 can only be used in the case where I cannot find 0w16 at the time? Also mine is only spec'd for 0w16 ( or the 0w20 as noted ) but nothing above those grades... I would think the 0w20 would give a touch more protection of the...

Im already seeing a glimpse of the replies lol but just wondering if there is anything worth noting on an oil choice for my wife's upcoming Grand Highlander and future oil changes. Ive done a bunch of reading on here, some threads end up locked with misinformation etc. Im guessing any off of...