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    We Are Obsessed But Does It Really Matter

    If the engineering is there to support it, otherwise you are assuming something. Does thicker blood work in your body? Thicker oil means less oil flow. The bearing itself is a pump that has extreme pressures to the MOFT. Again… wear is due to temperature increase. Flow decreases temperature...
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    We Are Obsessed But Does It Really Matter

    So… That is hardware engineering needed to the size of the bearing used. I have faith in the engineering. 20 weight oil has been around for 20 years. The bearing surface and flow has been proven. But the extreme pressures at MOFT creates much higher temperatures and at that point viscosity...
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    We Are Obsessed But Does It Really Matter

    If there is a problem with the timing chain, rings allowing oil consumption, bearings that wear out it is an issue with the engine hardware engineering. Not fluids. Every point of stress in an engine has a hotter oil producer that reduces the viscosity, so viscosity is variable. Oil flow is the...
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    Amsoil - Performance Tests

    Thanks for the correction.
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    Amsoil - Performance Tests

    Read starting at page 28 and further pages describing why Mobil 1 is reformulating. Page 29 states Visom is a precursor to GTL. (not GTL) Presently Mobil 1 is using GTL. Are they being supplied GTL by SOPUS, or do they manufacture their own? This write up was before 2010… IMO I believe this is...
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    Amsoil - Performance Tests

    I saw this post a while back and maybe got the wrong impression. Page 28-29. On or before year 2010 API SM Visom is a forerunner to GTL
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    Amsoil - Performance Tests

    Mobil 1 Visom (GTL) has been around for a long time. Waiting to take over the PAO role Mobil claimed Visom a long time ago comparable (equal) but delayed the formula change to Mobil 1. Now that change happened. How does Shell GTL compare to Mobil GTL?
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    Amsoil - Performance Tests

    Before Mobil 1 synthetic oil there was Amsoil synthetic. Both had issues with oil seal shrinkage which was controlled in reformulation. Just some info… Back then this was state of the art oil. Mobil 1 reformulation today from a few years ago. Always moving forward.
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    How many times have you switched sides on the thick vs. thin debate?

    Oil and engines are in a completely different place now. The playing field is closer to level and the engines are designed to last with a long time of engineering behind it... What is a “car people”?
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    "Best" SP Oil These Days

    Maybe… But maybe Dexos approved PP actually has less additive package by design to pass. Just a guess.
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    "Best" SP Oil These Days

    Just curious if you engine does not require Dexos 1 gen. 3 what advantage would PP have over PUP? Not a sharp guy but PUP has boron and PP does not.
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    How many times have you switched sides on the thick vs. thin debate?

    The oil is too thick in the morning start. The rest of the time who cares.
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    To all you Xw-20 doubters out there…

    Or the guy “in the know” uses a full flow air filter. (like K&N) Suggest removing MAF and see if intake is spotless. (MAF cleaner?)
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    To all you Xw-20 doubters out there…

    https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/question-about-filter-bypass.200435/#post-3067617 Jim Allen’s post #7 seems more accurate to me regarding the filter bypass.
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    To all you Xw-20 doubters out there…

    A bypass oil filter would work without reduction of flow. Dirt is dislodged when the full flow oil filter bypass opens. Cold oil (thicker) can cause the bypass to open.
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    To all you Xw-20 doubters out there…

    Xw-20 grade? Wear? And how wear happens? According to the article wear will always happen, in the bearing. Oil starvation section, improper oil film. The point I need to make is per the article is I can not find any reference to bearing wear due to using Xw-20. (the recommended oil weight) It is...
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    To all you Xw-20 doubters out there…

    for instance…. https://www.mahle-aftermarket.com/media/local-media-north-america/pdfs-&-thumbnails/catalogs-and-literature/engine-bearings/ceb-2-1114-engine-bearing-failures-brochure.pdf Notice the bearing failure rate is mainly caused by particles in the oil. Normal bearing wear is seen on 2/3...
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    To all you Xw-20 doubters out there…

    Personally think you can not make a one viscosity statement fits all vehicles statement. There is more to wear than main bearing MOFT at operating temperature.
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    To all you Xw-20 doubters out there…

    Do you really need to know? 5w-20 came out in 2002. Whenever the car was made the viscosity rules… Ford would love you to change, the car is out of warranty. So… Is the engine today made for the viscosity in the OM.
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    To all you Xw-20 doubters out there…

    Personally not worried about 20 weight oil. As long as that is what the manufacturer calls for. Forced intake would be a different ball game. Always a better 20 weight oil but for price and the rebate PUP 0w-20 is hard to beat IMO.
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