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So how is that better than an EV? Great numbers, by the way...

That is a huge over generalization; oil is sold on the world market. The US participates in the global oil market, exporting some of its production and importing others. The economics are simple: overseas oil, even after shipping costs, is often cheaper than domestically-produced crude. In...

Why is a hybrid better for you? Just curious... FYI, at first I thought EVs we just toys for rich CA granola heads. Then I thought I needed both an EV and an ICE vehicle (or PHEV). Now I would probably not buy another ICE vehicle, unless it was a PU. Gassing up has become an expensive chore. I...

The US Navy patrols the Strait of Hormuz to ensure the free flow of oil and to deter potential disruptions to global energy supplies, as the strait is a vital chokepoint for global oil trade.

Did you Google this? Here's one article.

Not to mention the Navy patrolling the Strait of Hormuz... We are talking trillion$ The world runs on oil; what's a poor boy to do?

I have pretty good tools in my garage for a DIY guy, but no smoke wrench. I am considering the chisel approach. I will get another crack at the car next week. Thanks for your guidance.

Agreed. It will be interesting to see how the US market and companies responds. Random thoughts.... Teslas are expensive; a good percentage of their customers do not qualify for the tax credit anyways. In my estimation, this is far more painful for the rest of the US EV market due to poor...

I'm still kicking myself for buying the car in Dec 2018 instead of TSLA. Of course, we all knew this stupid little startup would be belly up at any time... Especially with the necessity to put up the tents earlier in the year. It was all over the news here. Elon sleeping at the Fremont factory...

Neither is he... :ROFLMAO:

I paid $4.05 for rag today in the Tundra, about $50 for half a tank. Lowest price in a loooooong time! I'm dumping the Tesla!

Got it. I was primarily concerned with the EV market. Other makes EV business will take a hit and are already subsidized by the ICE/PHEV vehicles as you point out. Regardless, look a the numbers. Teslas are expensive and yet they are top sellers. If they bring lower cost models to market, ICE...

Not even close... I use that big nuclear reactor up in the sky. It's so simple.

Kinda funny... Many seem overly concerned by Supercharging, but most charging is done at home. Here's the surprising (funny) part; I have come to enjoy stopping for a few minutes to charge, try out a new Starbucks or whatever, and get back on the road. Whoda thunk it? No horror stories on my...

Ain't gonna happen; the world runs on oil, and big oil is far too powerful.

That all lose money, with the possible exclusion of BMW, right? The point is, this puts the squeeze on already poor margins. Now, I don't follow the market very closely, so perhaps other makes, primarily in China, have improved. I also disregard the tax credit due to its qualifications. If...

There will not be enough work for people to do. I am talking in 10 years or more.

I'm sure it will. The loss of the $7500 tax credit after Dec 31, 2018 played a role in the decision to buy our 1st Model 3. At that time there was no income qualification. You had to take ownership before the end of the year, not just order one. It was delivered from Fremont to our door the last...

You never been carried away wearing esposas? You don't know what you are missing...

Just opened a dealership, er ah I mean store, in our town. Of course there are 2 more nearby... I noticed it just opened as I was dropping off 5 jugs of used oil at O'Reilly's. Here's a pic of a few months ago.