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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    "Imagine that you were sitting in your truck and the dashboard temperature display showed a temperature of -45F and you know that the Pour Point of the oil in your pan is -40F. Would you push the start button?"
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    Thanks, but I already knew that. The problem is when you are trying to pick an oil that will lubricate your engine at temperatures below -40, the MRV number is of little help, since it is only tested at -40. The oil may be a solid brick at -41 but could still have an acceptable MRV at -40. So...
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    From personal experience I know that today's cars are much easier to start in cold weather than the 1970's and 1980's models were. In my experience today's cars (if well maintained and supplied with a good battery) will start and run at -40F with no problems. The worry that I have is will they...
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    It doesn't boggle my mind. They are clearly warning you that if you operate your engine below the temperature listed as the "Pour Point", the oil is no longer a liquid. Anyone with any common sense will not want to do that in actual practice. Imagine that you were sitting in your truck and...
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    Closer examination of the three PDS of Mobil 1 0w30 (https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-0w-30 , https://www.mobil.ca/en-ca/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/personal-vehicle-lubricants/products/mobil-1-0w-30 , and...
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    Thanks! I did not see mention of those standards on the HPL product page for 0W30.
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    This beats it as well but appears to be oriented toward European low-SAPS applications and approvals. Probably not the best choice for my Ford EcoBoost 3.5. What's the point? I do travel on a regular basis to places that get below -40F, both in the US and Canada. I have seen -38F on my...
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    The most recent information I have on ESP 0W30 shows an MRV at -40F of 19000 and a CCS at -35F of 6100, the latter close to the SAE limit of 6200 for 0W (making this almost a 5W30 oil?). OTOH I don't know what the CCS is for Classic or AWE 0W30 - it might be just as close to 5W30 as ESP is.
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    You are right: HPL appears to take the crown. But does not claim to meet any standards ...
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    This may simply be the Chinese market version of the newer Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 formulation, which can be seen here: https://www.mobil.ca/en-ca/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/personal-vehicle-lubricants/products/mobil-1-0w-30 . It contradicts other PDS that Mobil has posted...
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    Mobil 1 Classic 0W30: best cold weather oil?

    Pour point: -65F. Out of character, Mobil even posted an MRV at -40F for this oil: 16200. Both numbers beat Ravenol SSO 0w30 for a record low. This may be the best cold weather oil you can buy, especially if you need to meet a Ford specification: It is one of only three oils available in the...
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    Fear of A.I

    How do you know? The people who created key pieces of the modern world that surrounds us are ordinary people who have cars and wonder what oil to use, just like you. So they may be on BITOG. Don't assume that everyone has to be idiot technically just because they are acting ordinary and...
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    Fear of A.I

    What makes you think that we don't have the brightest minds on BITOG?
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    Fear of A.I

    If you want to keep yourself in a constant state of fear and foreboding about this, just keep watching those Science Fiction movies. But remember please that the second word in Science Fiction is "Fiction". The writers knew they were creating fiction purely for entertainment purposes. In the...
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    Fear of A.I

    You are right. I agree that "We don't have the data to make any good conclusion". Remember, it is also over all of time (billions of years?), since no timeframe was mentioned. The fact that 50% (a nice round number, huh?) did not agree that there was a 10% or higher possibility over all time...
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    Fear of A.I

    All of the people surveyed are trained in mathematics and are very logical. If asked a question, they will do their best to give as accurate an answer as they can. So let's look at the survey response from a statisticians standpoint: half the respondents thought that the chance the particular...
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    Fear of A.I

    Just because it is called "Intelligent" does not make it intelligent. Actually, it just regurgitates ... it finds on the internet. It has no idea what is true and what is not. It cannot reason. Now if we actually had a computer program that could reason like a human and tell what is true and...
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    Fear of A.I

    Before y'all get too carried away with your fears, dreams, nightmares, prophesies, etc., please consider a couple of facts: 1) The first version of a program like ChatGPT was launched in 1964, in other words almost 60 years ago! It was called Eliza. At the time it caused the same uproar, fears...
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    most disappointing car you ever had.

    This from someone who owned two cars made by the notorious British Leyland Motor Corporation!
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    most disappointing car you ever had.

    Worst: 1969 Beetle. Electrical parts failed so frequently that I was on a campaign to replace every part that said "Bosch" on it with a aftermarket part that did not say "Bosch". It was a horribly outdated design in 1969. The final straw was when the engine seized due to a valve breaking off...
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